| [Feb.26 2009] Dear Rin, I think it would be fine to put the email conversation on the web site, because, as you say it is an on going conversation. Our conversation started with your "patching skies", in a way the over all theme of our conversation has had that theme. It is a kind of quilt. We are patching ideas and feelings and experiences, memories , many different angles and ways of seeing things together,and just because other people take their time to view the over all picture, the over all quilt of our communication, it becomes a kind of artifact of life. The email is just another phase of it patched in with the others. May be it is time for the painting phase to take a rest? I am not painting so much either now. When I think of it I feel it would be an effort but when I do it any effort is swallowed up in the over all energy of it. So I think now is not the time for me either. We can leave the door open. "Paintings, come in when you feel like it." Love and Peace, George [Feb.26 2009] Dear George, Nice try George. Now I see what you were talking about. Indeed, it does seem such an overall experience,doesn't it? PS:I got some questions about what happened to our "conversation" on my website. It seems our "conversation" is communicating with someone out there. I must confess that I am not sure when I can come back to produce painting again. I was hoping soon, but it seems not happening so soon. I am wondering if you are ok with putting our ongoing email conversation, which is continuous "conversation" after all. Let me know what you think. Love&Peace, Rin [Feb.26 2009] Dear Rin, My thinking was not clear on the subject of communication and creativity. Let me try again. After reflecting on it, I see that communication ( in this sense I mean between one human and another or others) and creativity are not the same but that they are involved with one another. Speaking of creativity from my own experience only I see that it has primarily to do with the expression and with the experience of an up welling elemental energy. There is a similarity between the will to communicate and the will of expression in that both are coming from within and going out. In communication, however, there is always the will to communicate with someone, to interact with them. In the instance of creativity the expression is going out but it is not directed to anyone in particular, unless I specifically will that as in the instance of the butterflies or our Conversation. A painting that I do does communicate to another human but I do not know when I do it what it will communicate to them or to whom it will communicate. So much is integrated into creative expression that is beyond me to separate it out into individualized concepts. I think that is why I am repeatedly drawn back to it, because it is such an overall experience. Love and Peace, George [Feb.25 2009] Dear Rin, I'm wondering how this was revealed to you. Was it from an experience that you had? George [Feb.24 2009] Dear Rin, What you say is profound. What ever I meant or thought I meant is not important now. What you say supercedes it. Now I want to meditate on reverberation. Love and Peace, George p.s. why you think you are not good with words is beyond my understanding. [Feb.24 2009] Dear George, To understand what you meant, I think I have to know what aspects of communication you are talking about. To me, communication is not limited to humans or social interactions. Communication is the phenomenon of livings. Communication happens at many levels in many different ways. Therefore I think we all (organism livings) are communicators. What I meant "Art is communication" is my understanding of life as "reverberation". For me, art is what I am going through, ongoing experience,which is a process. I see this world as the phenomenon of reverberation of all individuals. Love&Peace, Rin I don't know how to explain it better way. I apologize if it just puzzled you. [Feb.22 2009] Dear Rin, I think mostly about the artist's way. What we call creativity is hard to understand. I don't know what comes first or if they are the same, creativity and communication. People who are very good communicators, who would not be called artists are nevertheless creative. What did you mean when you said 'art is communication' ? When I read that, I thought that you were expressing something essential to art and the artist. Artists are communicators. It is interesting that artists are often very shy people but something comes out of them that they want others to see or hear. I often wonder what creativity is. I'm afraid I am going around in circles. I'm not sure that I understand what I meant either. [Feb.21 2009] I see. The image of the god with wings on his helmet and wings on his feet is very interesting. I am afraid that if I did not understand what you meant. You think the will to communicate is the source of creativity,right? Without creativity, there are no communication? Or what you are saying is about Artist's way? Rin [Feb 21 2009] Dear Rin, I think that perhaps the line to the little finger is a communication line. I have not read this but the little finger is known as the Mercury finger and Mercury, the god with wings on his helmet and wings on his feet, is the messenger of the gods. I do have this will to communicate. The thought that art is communication goes right to the heart of it. Artists have the will to communicate. Out of the will to communicate creative means are sought out. Once the question is asked, "How can I communicate? How can I best hear what is being communicated to me?", then creativity comes into play to bring that about. George [Feb.20 2009] Yes that is it Rin, "Where were you" "Don't know" "OK space cadet" Spacing out, where are we? Can't really say but not here. That is all I really mean consciousness is somewhere else. Only thing we can really say with certainty is NOT HERE! Daughter blames you, sort of like people blaming each other for catching a cold. "You gave me your cold" , but who owned the cold to begin with? You did two reports? Somehow I felt you were hard at work on something. Space Is The Place Love and Peace, George [Feb.19 2009] People around me often noticed that I sometimes become spaced out. But I don't remember any kind of sensation of being out of body. I might have been somewhere out of this body,but I really don't know. Maybe my consciousness is just simply turned off sometimes for some reason. Funny thing is that my daughter blames me of that her friends complain about her spaced out habit. I just finished 2 reports and my brain is extra dull at this moment. I better put this interesting theme aside for now. Rin [Feb.18 2009] Hi Rin, Yes, questions are most welcome. I don't know if the answers will be satisfactory. I have had out of body experiences before. The problem with describing is the word 'place'. That is a concept of three dimension. You are in Vista while I am in Sebastopol but we meet in a place that is not a place-a mental space. So really the experiences that I am conscious of is that of returning to our earth, or returning to my body, and the feeling of I have been far away but I do not remember where or what it was. There have been times that I do remember but the experience is different each time. What the experiences have in common is being out of the body and returning to the body. It is not an experience that I have often but often when I am ill, or in an extreme circumstance. I don't know how much more I can say without incurring that 'talking-to-much' feeling. But please ask more if you like. About home it is hard to say, my essential feeling is one of homelessness. I like the earth. Society is difficult for me. I am not well adjusted to society. I think society is a difficult thing. There are many problems. I often think toward the future. I have hope for the future, not my isolated future, but the future of humanity. Thank you for asking. How about yourself? Have you had experience of being away? George [Feb.18 2009] Dear George, Wow. Can I ask more questions? Do you feel you have been there(the place far away) before? Do you feel you are back to home?..or back from home? I remember that you told me before that you sometimes feel not belonging to here. Rin [Feb.18 2009] Dear Rin, far away, I don't know actually, the experience is like I have returned from some place far away from earth, here, or my body-not from another place on earth like I've traveled to Spain and come home again. George [Feb.18 2009] far away from here? Rin [Feb18 2009] hi sometimes I sleep and when I awake I feel I have been so far away George |
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